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Post by hazmod on Nov 24, 2013 7:32:59 GMT
I noticed this security on there in Cafeteria by wall covered, I'm understand it. Whoever control access to enter to competition area and visitors who still keep patience and queue on there. I'm approved it, security keep control to enter to competition room , like one of Autosport international show and Motor show in Birmingham , where is gate attend security still waiting in or out from people on there, and keep patience with queue on there. I went to packed my models for my boxes after closed to competition on Sunday afternoon. I waiting there until 3.00 pm Warned to people will not enter to competition area until 3.00 pm Competitors will show any card for packed any models in boxes after 3.00pm on further What you will suggested it and you will think about security still attended to door for enter to exit on door. Past years, badly gridlock people went to views any models in competition, and massive dis comfortable with them in room I rant one of people over tripped his leg caught me on two weeks ago, idiot want low views to model for kneeing down and outrage for safety and health regulation not noticed in there. If people whoever tripped over caught idiot will kneed down for low views any models, and can caused tripped over models with damaged I'm not happy with gridlock people will views any models at competition, and I has caught near tripped with idiot for knee down his leg back on floor I will rant idiot on further You will views points for security for enter to exit at competition Do n't pull over security's chest and please you must patience and relax, all right
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Post by tony on Nov 24, 2013 10:48:40 GMT
This is an interesting point with regards to the attendance and overcrowding at this years ScaleModel World. the numbers of people attending are up on previous years and anyone who is a regular visitor can confirm this as everywhere on both days there always seem to be a crowd. non more so than in the competition area, and in a confined space there is going to be a hazard of overcrowding. that is why at certain points on both days the numbers had to be limited in the competition area to avoid a dangerous situation. with the help of the security staff we tried to instigate some form of flow control, and this was going to be very important at the end of the show as well. that is why I took the decision at 15.00 on the Sunday to limit entry to the competition, and to allow only people collecting models. this did seem to ease things a little and maybe something for the future if we get an overcrowding situation with the potential for damage being inflicted on models in the competition. With the show being so popular and especially the competition area being one of the popular areas to visit we may have to expand the area of the competition so as to avoid any potential queuing for visitors and competitors.
Tony.
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Post by hazmod on Nov 24, 2013 10:56:16 GMT
I agreed tony horton's comment, I know overcrowded at competition on past years. Welcome to new gate attended security on enter/ exit point in cafeteria to competition area here.
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Post by kelvin on Dec 8, 2013 10:17:11 GMT
Hi Tony One other point. When judging a few of the classes I was regularly interupted by a number of the other judges that had finished their classes taking photo's. I don't mind photo's being taken per se, It is one of the perks of judging, BUT it must be regulated a bit. When we are doing the final judging (best in class, best in show) that should be when judges should take their photo's, not whilst other are still beaveribg away.
Kelvin
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Post by hazmod on Dec 8, 2013 11:06:07 GMT
kelvin, What is it ? , No This is security staff who has control with overcrowding enter/ exit point at gate attended by wall covered from cafeteria near competition area a Kelvin, What is judges with matters? I still nothing say about judges here :-L
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 11:53:08 GMT
Nick this is nothing to do with security staff, it's purely an internal matter for the judges and the EC to sort out!
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Post by hazmod on Dec 8, 2013 13:16:36 GMT
Kelvin, what is trouble with judges at competition, and what is it When You went to competition area I has saw security staff stand gate attended enter/ exit point on cafeteria near competition area What is you want it? I know overcrowding at competition area with problem on past SMW You should careful reads this subject on here I still nothing say about judges on here :-L TA!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 18:39:46 GMT
I give up!
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Post by hazmod on Dec 9, 2013 5:48:50 GMT
This is gate attended security at competition to cafeteria by wall covered behind competition area, what is people still waiting for queue on here, as enter /exit point from gate attended security on here. What is caused overcrowding at competition area Nothing saying about judges This is right subject with my thread on here :-L
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2013 9:01:49 GMT
Hi Tony One other point. When judging a few of the classes I was regularly interupted by a number of the other judges that had finished their classes taking photo's. I don't mind photo's being taken per se, It is one of the perks of judging, BUT it must be regulated a bit. When we are doing the final judging (best in class, best in show) that should be when judges should take their photo's, not whilst other are still beaveribg away.
Kelvin
Nick, please read Kelvin's post, it had nothing to do with overcrowding it's purely a matter for the judges and the EC to sort out, this was before the public were allowed into the competition area!
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Post by tony on Dec 9, 2013 9:35:27 GMT
Hi Tony One other point. When judging a few of the classes I was regularly interupted by a number of the other judges that had finished their classes taking photo's. I don't mind photo's being taken per se, It is one of the perks of judging, BUT it must be regulated a bit. When we are doing the final judging (best in class, best in show) that should be when judges should take their photo's, not whilst other are still beaveribg away. Kelvin Hi Kelvin this was a problem this year due to the number of sponsored trophies from other overseas branches. I will deal with this for 2014. there will be a ban on taking photos until we have the classes finished. but I expect that the overseas awards may diminish in 2014. I know Nicholas is commenting on the crowds outside the competition whilst judging is taken place. but this happens every year and there is now way of stopping people gathering to gain entry into the competition. please do not comment on other ways of judging the competition as we have explored that line time and time again. Tony.
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Post by hazmod on Dec 9, 2013 18:59:54 GMT
I will suggested Judges and official press will wearing with colour waistband, Security Staff who control with enter to exit for gate attended competition, like looks Bouncer. Staff will checked Judges with waistband, go to enter to there and an official press or photographers will wearing waistbands, show for staff. Public visitors will barred to Judges and Press at competition and prevent people who will gathering to gain entry into a competition area Judges or official press who will collected to IPMS Membership desk for wristbands, with invited names on list on paper work Bouncer style staff will barred people trying gain to entry into a competition area on further What is you think about Security staff like bouncer style will controls to enter to exit into gate attended into competition area If I make montion on further
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Post by tony on Dec 10, 2013 8:58:26 GMT
I think this will have to be in place for next year. the security staff enforce a no entry to public during judging. I will have badges for judges if they want them. For judges to have different wrist bands is not going to happen as the coast and logistic of this is unworkable, and some judges may not want to wear these.
the competition area during judging for 2014 will be better policed.
Tony.
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Post by hazmod on Dec 10, 2013 17:23:26 GMT
I still keep think about it, and no problem If judges still wearing with badges on continued Press and photographers who carrying with pass holders, all right No problem, all right
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Post by NoelSmith on Dec 10, 2013 20:02:22 GMT
Tony and the comps team did a splendid job over the SMW weekend in overseeing and regulating the competition. It worked better with just the one entry/exit point, and the partition from the cafeteria area being kept in place. The year before people were entering the competition area complete with back packs etc via a gap at the far end of the room because the partition was folded back. Having the partition closed stopped this problem. Also the baggage put down and reclaim area was increased and worked very efficiently this time around. The comps area did get a bit crowded at times, but as it was a special anniversary year we had many more competitors and viewers to contend with. Only judges and members of the EC and designated marshalls should be allowed in the area whilst judging takes place. Judges badges with their name on it and the SMW year on it I think maybe would be a good idea to stop anyone trying to gain access during judging. Press and official photographers get an hour set to one side exclusively for themselves first thing on the Sunday morning of the show before any one else is allowed in, so there is no need for them to be in the area whilst judging is taking place. Tony and the lads should take great credit for a well organised competition.
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