Hi all! Still new to this site but I have a question about varnishing. I've just about finished two AD-4s in Humbrol 11 Silver. Should I varnish and if so what is better matt or satin? Excuse the ignorance as I am a "new" modeller (having stopped 35 years ago and now re-starting).
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Post by The Hooded Claw on Nov 29, 2013 17:00:06 GMT
Any silver/natural metal finish when varnished will change, No11 is by definition satin so if you're happy with the finish I'd say no to a top coat varnish. If you want to see wha teffect it will have apply an area of your chosen paint to a piece of scrap plastic and then varnish as wished and see what it does.
At the end of the day, you choose to finish your model as you wish.
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great advice! Thank you! My thought was about long term protection and also to get the decals and matt painted areas "in sync" with the rest of the model which, as you say, is satin already. Having said that this was my first attempt at airbrushing and the Humbrol 11 has come out quite rough and sand-like. It is consistent throughout but has that dull aluminium look about it (which I like!).
As a general rule I will use a matt varnish on natural metal. It seals in everything like paint, decals, any pastel weathering, etc, and it gives an overall consistency to the finish. Why matt? Having seen any number of natural metal aircraft in the static parks at the US Base airshows in the 60s/70s, I remember them as very matt. Similarly, some London tube lines used mainly unpainted stock I believe, and that was similarly matt.
I'm not a fan of the highly polished effect some modellers achieve, for two reasons: firstly I can't do it! Secondly, it looks wrong to me. A highly polished P-51, for example, says to me "warbird" rather than "wartime".
Gloss or even satin on silver looks to me like lacquered bare metal or silver paint - and some aircraft were painted like that. Depends on your subject.
Hope this is helpful, and do show us a picture or two when you've finished the models.
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Chaps. I've hit a problem - and remember that this is my first ever attempt at airbrushing and I am a returning modelling having not lifted a brush or tube of cement for more than 35 years! I have my two models sprayed with Humbrol 11 enamel. It has given a matt finish (should be brighter and satin?). The issue is that despite using Micro Set and Sol (all new to me) some decals are lifting. Where am I going wrong? I read that decals ideally need a gloss surface to adhere to. Therefore should I be gloss varnishing first, then decals, then matt varnish?
decals should always be applied over a gloss varnish or future ( see other posts about future floor polish ), as you have read. this assists in getting rid of the air from between the decal and the model, also causes a silvering effect when the decal dries out. a sheen/satin/matt varnish should be applied to get your final look after decaling. don't dispair, a lot of people have perfected this process, many things have moved on in the time you were away from the hobby.
Hi all. So, I've varnish with Humbrol Glosscote and applied decals. What is the recommended time to wait before varnishing again? Excuse the stupid questions but when I was modelling a long way back varnishing was no something I ever did. Thanks!
PS: when applying the decals I used Micro Set (and then Sol) but it simply ran off of the varnished surface!!
MikeC, As promised a couple of images of the completed models. Be gentle with me as these are the first I've done since the late 1970s, and my first (almost) airbrush experience!
One is marked as TR-KMP/126956 of the Gabon Presidential Guard, flown by Jacques Borne, who I've been corresponding with. This machine is now in the Nation Museum of Naval Aviation, Florida, after being impounded by the US Customs after import from France. The other is 127888/12-LE of the EAA 1/21 French Air Force based in Djibouti. I have marked it as it was when it visited Nairobi in August 1967 as part of a four-ship group. It is relatively unusual in that it has red/white prop tips, and not of the USN style. 127888 is now in a museum in Kalamazoo, after many years as a target tug in the US.
These models took a lot of research and re-shaping to get them as per the French machines, particularly the underwing pylons, the side doors (crudely marked ), Mk8 and Mk12 drop tanks, various aerials, etc!
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