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Post by merlin on Feb 17, 2007 2:30:12 GMT
has anyone used the model air range of these paints , if so could you give some info on thinning if needed and any other relevant info cos i have a lead to get some of these at trade possibly but don't know anything about em
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Post by rhino on Feb 17, 2007 8:07:22 GMT
Merlin I've just got myself some. Can't really comment except they don't appear to need watering down. Mind the metallics though. They need at least 24 hours to dry.
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Post by rhino on Feb 17, 2007 11:34:37 GMT
I've just tried the black on some 1/48th scale rotor blades and it looks good. You will need to keep the pressure up though.
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Post by merlin on Feb 17, 2007 13:15:55 GMT
what pressure do you recommend mate as im always between 15/20 right now . also doesnt higher pressure usually indicate thicker paint that could be thinned?
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Post by rhino on Feb 17, 2007 13:22:09 GMT
The pressure you're using is OK. I sometimes go lower for detailed stuff with a fine airbrush, but at 12 PSI my brush clogged, but was OK at 20.
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Post by merlin on Feb 17, 2007 13:49:43 GMT
so would you recommend the paints or would you say theres a better alternative . i want to try loads of paints to find what im happy with but obviously im new back to modeling and , shall we say the older modelers advice on paints will help me i think
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Post by rhino on Feb 17, 2007 14:00:53 GMT
Can't really comment on them properly yet, as I have just started using them, but it does save on guesswork as regards thinning, and with several shades of metal available, that would make NM schemes more interesting.
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Post by merlin on Feb 17, 2007 14:10:48 GMT
oh yeah i have to agree the colour range is superb , just looking for a conversion chart now . obviously being acrtlic they are flat to semigloss so im going to have to clear it after but i may just use this for figures not sure yet . i assume face masks still apply even though its water based
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Post by rhino on Feb 17, 2007 14:25:44 GMT
I picked up a colour chat at Huddersfield. There are 93 colours and 3 varnishes listed.
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Post by rhino on Mar 12, 2007 14:48:09 GMT
Just been spraying an orange over Tamiya white with the Vallejo paint. I found that it seems to have avoided going into the panel lines. I'm not sure if it didn't like the panel lines or the Tamiya paint. I will have to carry out further tests, i.e. putting Vallejo white on first. If the stuff doesn't like panel lines, then it's junk time. I will let you know what happens.
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Post by Paul Senter on Sept 10, 2007 9:36:29 GMT
I have used the Model Air Range on a B 17 and am now using it to complete the 262 and I have to say it is wonderful stuff. I spray it at 20psi and requires no thinning. The only thing you have to watch is that your intended target must be clean and fingerprint grease free otherwise the paint will not adhere to the surface, you also have to spray fairly close as the paint dries very quickly. Like anything you need to practise but overall they are brill. Cleaning is simple too - simply place the airbrush in a bowl of water and hit the button - strip it, dry it and you are ready to go again.
The colour range is a little limited but new colours are coming out all the time and they do 'packs' of linked colours for instance you can buy a 16 bottle German Panzer set which will give you all the main colours to complete a model. They also do a 'flesh tones' pack - 'does what it says on the tin'
I also have some the Model paint colours (non Airbrush ready) and they too are excellent - covers halfords primer as easily as plain plastic and the colour range is superb. Have started to use more and more acrylics cos they are so easy to use and clean up. Also means you can use oil washes without the worry damaging the underlying paint work.
Big thumbs up from me so far.
Paul
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Post by Paul Senter on Sept 15, 2008 13:21:56 GMT
All
Further to my previous post - have used Vallejo to complete a number of kits and can thoroughly recommend them to anyone wishing to use Acryilics. Bought myself a 'metallic' set of about 10 bottles a little while have just used them to complete a P-47N in a natural metal finish. Based coat with metallic aluminium then highlighted panels with metallic steel and metallic chrome, didn't go over the top as I wanted to see the effect but you could paint every panel with a slightly different tone and you would be left with a superb finish. Only one criticism is that coloured paint did not adhere well to the metallic finish, so the trick is to paint the coloured wing tips first, mask off and then apply the metallic. Ill post a few pics when I get home tonight.
Dont think it is the same league as Alclad but for the price of about £1.70 per pot, its not bad at all. Endorse the thumbs up from before.
Paul
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2008 19:40:11 GMT
I started using Vallejo paints for weathering, they're excellent for just about any type of weathering application. I used to thin the paint with water as required, no particular mix percentage. Then I started using the Vallejo Air selection, easy to use, air brush ready although if using a colour for a long session, the brush requires flushing from time to time. In short, well recommended for most applications, although for gloss finishes, I've started using rattle cans as a replacement for Humbrol Enamel.
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Post by Paul Senter on Sept 16, 2008 20:40:54 GMT
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