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Post by okdoky on Mar 21, 2010 20:39:03 GMT
Hey guys ,,,,,,,,,,,,, all suggestions greatly received !!!!!!!
I am not one for getting things 100% correct anyhow, so my main preference is to wing it to get something to actually put on the table.
Hopefully it will look OK and if it is not 100% I am sure there will be enough people at the show to give me suggestions on how to improve.
Thanks Foxy and Nick for the support.
Nige
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Post by okdoky on Mar 22, 2010 0:16:22 GMT
Here is where I am at by the end of the weekend. I have put my 1/32 Renault Traffic van up against it to show the potential for use in both war time and current period dioramas with a world wide usage. Going off to bed soon as nackered from two overnight sessions of modelling and Xbox 360. Work tomorrow. Nige
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Post by Biggles on Mar 22, 2010 11:36:39 GMT
I really don't mean to be pedantic, but it's Nissen hut, not Nissan hut, having been designed by Major Peter Norman Nissen of the 29th Company Royal Engineers in WW1, rather than by the people who made the Datsun Bluebird!
Sorry, but it's been nagging at me since the start of the thread!
Ian
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2010 11:54:43 GMT
I really don't mean to be pedantic, but it's Nissen hut, not Nissan hut, having been designed by Major Peter Norman Nissen of the 29th Company Royal Engineers in WW1, rather than by the people who made the Datsun Bluebird! Sorry, but it's been nagging at me since the start of the thread! Ian I called it a Nissen hut sir ... would you like an apple?
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Post by okdoky on Mar 22, 2010 12:56:37 GMT
Hi there Ian
Thanks for that ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I suppose I should get round to asking the MODS to alter the title for me (I dunno how to) to give Mr Nissen the due respect his design deserves.
I am just getting used to the txt gen tht mispel n shrtn wrds so mch u cn't ofn tel wht thy triin t say!!!!!
Next time I do a nissen hut though, I will simply lay the internal sheets overlapping the bows then lay the purlins on top. As you can see I have gaps that will not be seen when it is all closed up, but I will know they are there.
If I had used wider bows and cut the corrugated sheets all the same width first and set each bow individually they may have been without gaps. My fiddling about in the plaster getting the bows to stand vertical has put the allignment out fractions enough to cause unevenness.
BUGGER
Ah well in the knowledge box for later use !!! Too far on nd too tight deadline to alter now.
Thanks Ian and all for looking in on my build. Appreciated !!!
Nige
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Post by Biggles on Mar 22, 2010 16:19:15 GMT
No Nicholas, but you can be ink monitor next week.
Nice hut, by the way!
Ian
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Post by okdoky on Mar 22, 2010 21:37:33 GMT
Hi folks I got directed to a great article on how to make brick and stone using cork sheet cut to size and then using spackle (I presume in the UK is common building plaster). This is where I am at tonight and a bit of the route I took was by pure chance after deciding to shred a piece of junk mail at home. I took an A4 sized sheet of the cork and chucked it in the shredder ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hey presto ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 6mm wide strips (ok some a bit skew wiff probably cause our shredder is well used and abused). I marked out a 2mm by 6mm box on two parallel lines to act as a guide Metal streight edge to hold the cork and guide my blade A sharp blade would be a boon but as my work shed in a mess and me bringing stuff back into the house to work on I am using the blade at hand (NOT AS SHARP AS COULD BE). A few cuts later and a heap of brick shims to make a facing for my hut. Nige
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Post by okdoky on Mar 23, 2010 4:48:43 GMT
Started laying down the brick courses with wood glue onto a cardboard background. I have to say myself that it gives a very pleasing effect. Am nackered and need my bed. Night night Nige
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Post by okdoky on Mar 24, 2010 1:30:44 GMT
Tonights efforts A bit of trimming to do on the doors and windows Nige
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Post by foxy on Mar 24, 2010 18:34:46 GMT
Nice work Okdoky.
What you putting between the bricks as morter.
Coming along very nicely.
I see someone likes his cuppa.
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Post by okdoky on Mar 24, 2010 21:01:07 GMT
Hi Foxy
One thing I did not take account of is that the cardboard warped with the glue process. I am adding a couple of coffee stirrers on the inside face to straighten and strengthen the cardboard. This will also help to mimic the real brick buttressing that appears on the inside.
Gonna use normal building plaster in a weak mix dabbed on the brickwork and brushed of again with a damp sponge. This might mean the carboard might warp again so I will try to flatten and weigh the thing done with \ aheavy book till the wall dries out fully.
Fingers XXXX
Nige
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Post by okdoky on Mar 26, 2010 1:39:25 GMT
Got round to grouting up the brick courses with basic household all pupose filler only a £1 a tub. Coffee stirrer as a trowel to lay on the filler and press it in to the brick beds and perp-end joints. part filled and excess rubbed off with a damp cloth Outside face Inside face (note the addition of coffee stirrers to form the buttressing which was also bricked over Cheers Nige
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Post by foxy on Mar 26, 2010 9:36:03 GMT
Great effect Nige. ''What''-- no whiskey in the glass. Coming along nicely.
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Post by okdoky on Mar 26, 2010 12:44:34 GMT
Hi there Foxy There was a stiff whisky in there last night. One of the other sites pointed out about the lack of lintels. Lintels could be concrete, metal or even simple timber lintels set in the brick. I was going on the basis of a simple metal lintel given the very short spans and minimal self weight of the brick above. Being in the building industry you would have thought I would have made a point of checking the photos a bit closer to see which might have been used ! This hut at Cultybraggen clearly has the edges of either a concrete or timber lintel showing through the RENDERED brick face Bu**er . Yes RENDERED !!! And it is likely that this was the original construction as it was very common in Scotland to render the brickwork for weathertightness. So, as my Nissen hut is based on the premise that it is at Cultybraggen (Camp 21) at the very beginning of the war, I will need to render the lovely brickwork on the exterior. Emphasising the lintels slightly would not be a problem. I should have gone to specsavers !!!!!! Bu**er Nige
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Post by foxy on Mar 26, 2010 13:08:04 GMT
Haha, well its allways a learning curve is modelling. But its now a case of rendering over that lovely brick work and hopefully,' throwing' , umm!!!, SHOWING some through it,-bricks that is!!!!. Maybe another stiff drink will do it .
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