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Post by Lonewolf on Mar 20, 2008 22:51:57 GMT
*Sigh* ok then its a W12 engine.
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Post by ptcruiser on Mar 20, 2008 23:47:11 GMT
*Sigh* ok then its a W12 engine. Nope! Not V or W. |
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Post by modelfrenz on Mar 21, 2008 11:32:02 GMT
Is it a Hispano Suiza or Mecedes Benz?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2008 12:30:17 GMT
Is it a Hispano Suiza or Mecedes Benz? Pay attention at the back, Ricardo has already hinted that it's a Fiat. |
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Post by Fatty on Mar 21, 2008 21:44:23 GMT
Hmmmm the only Fiat I can find with a 60 degree V12 engine is the Fiat 520, but that looks different in shape?  ??  |
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Post by fastcat on Mar 21, 2008 22:08:16 GMT
Fiat 806 GP car from 1927?
So that would be the Protar kit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2008 22:13:48 GMT
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Post by ptcruiser on Mar 27, 2008 22:31:06 GMT
Fiat 806 GP car from 1927? So that would be the Protar kit. Whey Hey- got there in the end guys well done!  This is the progress so far. As mentioned elsewhere (thanks Neil) this is being built by request. On the whole quite a lot of cleaning up to do and making the prts fit is challenging but I'm really enjoying the process. More pics as it goes on Rich |
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Post by ptcruiser on Mar 27, 2008 22:47:31 GMT
Oh, and going back to the engine, it's known as a H-12... Two vertical banks of 6 cylinders, 3 cams, 2 cranks and a grand total of 1500cc, supercharged producing 187hp. Designed and built for the new Formula Libre in 1927, the Fiat won Monza and was the last time Fiat ran under their own name, resources being required for production line models. A little confusion over the drivers name, but the consensus appears to be Pietro Bordino (as opposed to Bordini) who was later killed at the wheel of Bugatti in preparation for a race at the Alessandria Circuit in 1928. Finding references on line has proved quite difficult, particularly images, but I think it fair to say that the chassis members shown as black on Nick's link above, and in one or two other model shots is inaccurate, the one picture I have found shows that they are clearly body colour - red naturally! I have asked at specialist bookshops, but the late 20's is not well served and formula libre in particular seems to have been overlooked. I'll take me anorak off now  Rich |
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Post by The Hooded Claw on Mar 27, 2008 23:40:24 GMT
No put it back on. Do you know of a kit of Cobb's Napier Railton?
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Post by neilscrim on Mar 28, 2008 12:16:04 GMT
As mentioned elsewhere (thanks Neil) My pleasure, I can always be relied on to spoil things...  Neil
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Post by ptcruiser on Mar 28, 2008 20:18:36 GMT
No put it back on. Do you know of a kit of Cobb's Napier Railton? H Your best bet is probably 1/43.. SMTS? Rich |
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Post by fastcat on Apr 4, 2008 12:52:52 GMT
Ptcruiser's as near right as makes no difference. To the best of my knowledge, there's been two kits made of Cobb's Napier Railton, both in 1/43 and in metal. One was the very old John Day kit and the other was, I think, commissioned as a limited edition from SMTS. Only 100 were supposed to be produced and the kits had a certificate of authenticity from David Buckle of Formula 1 Models and Prints, so it's unlikely to surface again. It's not a bad kit, but the general casting quality on mine wasn't up to SMTS's normal standard and was pretty rough in parts. This is also quite an old kit now, so ebay's probably the only chance. Can't see anyone queueing up to do this in 1/24, but then I never thought anyone was going to make a 250TR in plastic either  |
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