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Post by popeye on Dec 9, 2008 16:56:22 GMT
Presently doing a 1/72nd WWII subject with extensively glazed cockpit.
First time compelled to really detail cockpit interior and especially
clearly visible detailed defensive gun posts
what I mostly tried to evade until now.
Any tips on adding realistic looking ammo feed belts and cartridge collector hose ?
What are you using ?
Many thanks in advance for helpful hints.
Rolf
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Post by popeye on Dec 18, 2008 9:49:30 GMT
help..... no ideas from the pool of advanced modellers around here ? Or have I worded my plea unintelligibly ? Rolf
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Post by Feanor on Dec 18, 2008 16:06:49 GMT
help..... no ideas from the pool of advanced modellers around here ? Or have I worded my plea unintelligibly ? Rolf Ayup Mate... Plasticard, stretched sprue and bits from the spares box for you, my lad... with good references from where you get yours...
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Post by COLIN SHIPTON-KNIGHT on Dec 18, 2008 19:29:10 GMT
Rolf,
What about Tamiya tape for feeds?
Thin plastic card?
Either with small strokes of the 'clear stuff', stroked across them to give texture of bullets, the clear stuff I refer to being the 'window stuff'... Cannot remember the name of it..... but it shrinks quite nicely.
And then brush across to give contrasting colour...?
Goodness, reading that even I am not too sure what I mean......
Colin
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Post by popeye on Dec 18, 2008 21:02:42 GMT
Feanor & Colin, - many thanks !
For the feed belts I tried plasticard and tape and lead foil - but the look was not convincing - maybe if I improve it with your ideas....
The "hose" for the spent cartridges seems even more difficult and is unfortunately even more prominent in the nose of the projected Ju 88.
Actually it seemingly was some kind of a wide tube from cloth, flexible, and kept circular with circular metal ring inserts.
I already tried Guitar string (thick variety with circular turns/winding but this is way too stiff for fitting where I need it.
Best solution would be if I could find some really flexible tubing of about 2 mm diameter with suitable external "ribbing". But finding something like that - no joy so far.
Thanks again - will have to continue with experimenting....
Rolf
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Post by ptcruiser on Dec 18, 2008 22:41:59 GMT
One way of producing a hose with coil type appearance is to take a piece of more flexible electrical wire, the multistranded type, and pull out the internal wires. Then take a piece of the said wire and coil wrap it around the outside of the casing. Use a few bits of superglue to hold in place. Time consuming but effective when finished, especially when painted.
I've used this on 1/24 car engine bays but I think if you were to use wire from say a small electric motor you would get the scale diameter you were looking for?
Rich
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Post by popeye on Dec 19, 2008 9:57:34 GMT
Thanks a lot, Rich.
Seems I will have to do it somehow like this.
Being a slow (and lazy) builder and usually not going to town with internal detail I was hoping to find an easy or readyly available solution.....
Cheers & thks, Rolf
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Post by COLIN SHIPTON-KNIGHT on Jan 3, 2009 20:07:18 GMT
Rolf,
Not quite connected to ammo belts etc, but what about gun barrels?
Have loads of syringe needles, they make great gun barrels or pitot tubes..
Interested? Shall I bring some to Switzerland when I come..?
Colin
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Post by popeye on Jan 4, 2009 9:49:50 GMT
Colin - many thanks but have a good supply of such needles to hand - don't run the risk of being suspected of drug dealing at possible customs inspection Rolf
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Post by timbo33 on Feb 6, 2009 21:44:10 GMT
Colin,
I'd be interested - where do you get them from 'cos they're very hard to find these days?
Tim
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Post by Simon Cornes on Feb 12, 2009 8:57:57 GMT
Rolf
You mentioned the spent cartridge case tubes. Have you thought about using what I think is called shearing elastic? Its circular section elastic covered in white or black cotton and it looks 'ribbed'. I would have thought a coat of diluted PVA would sort out any 'hairs' and then just superglue to attach. It is quite readily available over here!
Simon
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Post by popeye on Feb 12, 2009 9:48:28 GMT
Rolf You mentioned the spent cartridge case tubes. Have you thought about using what I think is called shearing elastic? Its circular section elastic covered in white or black cotton and it looks 'ribbed'. I would have thought a coat of diluted PVA would sort out any 'hairs' and then just superglue to attach. It is quite readily available over here! Simon Thanks Simon, Don't know that - could you maybe send a pic ? Diameter should be between 2 to 3 mm. Interested for possible future use, thanks in advance. Again thanks to all who replied. Have been able to find a solution for the present build. For flexible belts I used coloured foam rubber mat - 1 mm thick. For spent case tube flexible synthetic telephone cable wound with thin wire. Rolf
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Post by Paul Senter on Feb 12, 2009 23:58:48 GMT
Hi Rolf
I was going to suggest the plastic sleeve from electrical wire, the small stuff you get for your kettle etc. Remove the copper wire from the inside and then wrap a strand around the outside - should do the trick.
Best of luck
Paul
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Post by popeye on Feb 14, 2009 7:37:56 GMT
Hi Rolf I was going to suggest the plastic sleeve from electrical wire, the small stuff you get for your kettle etc. Remove the copper wire from the inside and then wrap a strand around the outside - should do the trick. Best of luck Paul Thanks Paul - that's about what I did in the end ! Rolf
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Post by andywood on Mar 22, 2009 12:39:01 GMT
For ammo belts get some gold foil (that used by a certain Swiss chocolate company for their rabbits) and rub it along a strip of staples. Hey presto, ammo belts!
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