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Post by playtime on Mar 26, 2009 0:41:07 GMT
Trying to get back into airbrushing at the moment and making the usual mistakes I need to start using a primer and have seen the usual calls for using the cheap Halfords Grey spray cans. I was trying to find hints on either a) decanting this so I could aribrush it (I don't trust myself with a spray can or quite frankly decanting) or b) an alternative. For instance, a friend of mine used to use any old acrylic white emulsion to prime metal miniatures. Your thoughts please? PS. I tried to find something at a conventiently local proper car paint shop but they didn't have a clue!
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Post by playtime on Mar 27, 2009 0:56:31 GMT
OK I hadn't spotted the time limit at the bottom of the huge list of boards on the search page. An easier way to search the whole of this site in one go is to google it, eg: halfords site:http://ipmsuk.proboards20.com I also found this article about decanting spray cans as well as a couple of posts on here about which ones to use. Job done. PS Can the mods move this to the paint forum please? I would still like to know if someone else has used emulsion as a primer and what results they got with it?
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Post by playtime on Mar 29, 2009 22:59:04 GMT
Finally got around to trying out a can of Halfords Grey Plastic Primer today and realised it was cellulose-based rather than acrylic. I had also seen some people mentioning they used thinned down Mr Surfacer as a primer but as that's also a laquer there's no difference surely between that and a few coats of Halfords? They must have money to burn I am going to have to decant the Halfords and aribrush it though. When I've been airbrushing before I couldn't see a mark on my filter or my table. Now there's a huge patch of grey on both Quite a waste for the small parts I've been doing. Live and learn.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 23:14:23 GMT
Finally got around to trying out a can of Halfords Grey Plastic Primer today and realised it was cellulose-based rather than acrylic. I thought that Halfords Primer was Acrylic based? ... ... just found this on the Halfords web site ... The advanced acrylic based formulation of Halfords colour match spray paint is compatible with virtually all types of automotive paint finishes ...
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Post by playtime on Mar 30, 2009 11:40:35 GMT
That's paint, not primer?
I have no conclusive proof unfortunately. It just smells cellulose-based to me (though not as much as Mr Surfacer does) and the cellulose thinners was next to the bog-standard tins of primer.
I suppose the smell could be the propellant.
There's nothing to prove it either way on the can either.
With a quick root around, I've found that the standard Halford's primer (not the plastic primer) definately is cellulose-based and an older name for the Plastic Primer was Acrylic Primer. Now is that priming for acrylics or a primer that *is* acrylic. Grrr.
I'm need the definitive answer on this as I want to airbrush some Halford's on some small parts immenently. Last resort is trial and error I suppose.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2009 11:48:22 GMT
That's paint, not primer? Nope! ... the page I was on illustrated the primers, in all the shades available.
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Post by playtime on Mar 30, 2009 12:13:30 GMT
Thanks for that. I've since found quite a bit of anecdotal evidence that it's acrylic ( example). I can't find the Halfords page you mentioned unfortunately. I've also 'Asked a question' on the Halfords site against the Plastic Primer product too, so that should get the 'from the horses mouth' final confirmation. Maybe I had been sniffing too much Mr Surfacer
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2009 18:20:19 GMT
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Post by Paul Senter on Apr 23, 2009 10:22:06 GMT
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If you are still stuck, Vallejo produce a Grey Primer in their Model Air range. Its designed to be used in an airbrush (as the name suggests) without thinning. I use it all the time for priming small parts/areas whilst using Halford grey and also white primer for main assemblies. Had no problems with it at all although it dosn't seem to like Tamiya acrylic paint very much.
Paul
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Post by foxy on Apr 24, 2009 11:56:44 GMT
After a Primer,'when dry',I use Klear overall, this then allows you freedom of paint use. I like the fine Tamiya primer and beleave there is one in Halfords too,'fine that is', and Acrylic.
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