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Post by challenger on Nov 19, 2010 7:59:08 GMT
Firstly can I say that even though it was only my second SMW I still thoroughly enjoyed every part of it. Just a little thought I wanted to share regards the competition. As I've said it was only my second time at SMW I entered some models in the competition and was proud of my work. Judging comes and finishes and my models didn't get anything which is understandable me being a beginner and still learning some aspects. I duly examined the models that were awarded awards and as I've said I haven't much experience with competetions I found it hard to determine why models were awarded places accordingly. I was wondering whether there was a way of being able to hear/receive feedback as to why a model was not awarded so that competition participants can obviously learn where they're falling short and what to improve on. I apologise if anyone takes offence to this and I know the judges do a brilliant job.
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Post by tony on Nov 19, 2010 8:47:35 GMT
i have sent you a message with regards to your question.
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Ant
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Post by Ant on Nov 19, 2010 12:59:10 GMT
Having both judged and been judged I've also wanted to give and receive feedback, but appreciate it can be an _extremely_ delicate area and there is great scope to cause offence when none was intended, and it comes down to the personal demeanor of the giver and the receiver.
But done right, it can be extremely helpful, especially when seen as a form of passing on advice - "If you try this technique, you can avoid this problem...."
In recent years I was judging when one person had entered a lot of generally good models in related categories, but all fell a bit below the bar for the same reason. If they were my models, I would have loved to have known that so that I had something specific to work on.
Ant
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Post by challenger on Nov 19, 2010 15:10:10 GMT
That's precisely what I'm after obviously the judges know what makes a winning model and obviously my entries were below par but I'm left scratching my head as to what to improve.
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Post by NoelSmith on Feb 15, 2011 17:05:44 GMT
Judges Feedback. This idea has come up time and again in IPMS over the years. It'a nice thought, but a bit impracticable for the following reasons; As Ant said in his post... It can be an extremely delicate area depending on the Tact of the Judge and the Feelings of the Receiver. Some judges may be brilliant at judging models, but if their inter personal skills were, shall we say, a bit lacking, this could be a recipe for disaster. Also, one has to appreciate that judges sacrifice a big chunk of any show day to just do the judging alone, without having the added commitment to answer questions to individual modellers afterwards, as they want to get around the show too in the limited time they have left at their disposal. Judges are not normally paid and generally do it to help out and make the show successful.
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Post by jwhalen on Feb 16, 2011 13:34:35 GMT
Hi,
I think if a modeller asks for feedback they are mentally ready for some constructive criticism and obviously looking to see how they can improve.
I wouldn't question why a model of mine had received a certain position or why other models won because model placement in a competition is due to many factors, both objective and subjective.
I have judged myself at shows before and it is a very difficult task - I put my models in a competition at Milton Keynes recently (civilian vehicles) and the class was very diverse with a high standard of building thoughout; I certainly didn't envy the judges' task! Having said all that, if I put myself forward as a judge I am therefore placing myself in a position of expertise and if a modeller asked for feedback I would certainly give it - I would just comment on the model itself and not those it was judged with.
The issue of judges giving feedback is one that merits discussion but I appreciate that judges are busy, should be able to enjoy the show as well and the number of models in the competition would make a feedback policy a very time consuming effort.
Cheers,
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Post by Julien on Oct 23, 2011 23:47:53 GMT
I would say that Judging takes quite a chunk out of Saturday for those that do it and to spend even more time goving feed back to all the modllers in a class would be pretty imposible.
Julien
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