Post by tiggs63 on Feb 27, 2010 18:17:04 GMT
in reply to southsix (There is another side to this. If you're at a model show and you see an old kit you fancy, you either leave it alone or buy it. On line auctions are different, you're bidding with the so called 'collector') collectors go to shows as well the only difference is what the vendor is willing to let the kit go for. so you know the real price the vendor wants from the outset, you either buy it or leave it as you say, but on ebay the vendor might get the price he wants and some more if hes lucky, its not
because your bidding against a collector its because you don't know the other persons top price for that item so a person might go to a show and pay a £100 for a transit and be quite happy as he would of payed £150 if he had too and the vendors happy that he got what he wanted
as we said before a kit is only worth what a buyer will pay i often see bids on items that are twice the price you can pick them up for in the shops so what does all my jabber mean? well ebay works on the old principle greed & avarice 2 bidders will often out bid each other just because they don't like to loose even i have been guilty of that one once
let's just say that there are some folks on Ebay who have a rose colored vision of what their kits are worth, unfortunately, some of the buyers have more money than sense. totally agree with you but its fortunate for the sellers and the kit manufacturers as the cash is in some respects likely to go toward more kits.
in response to Tim i guess the manufactures now (with the rise in popularity of maritime subjects) feel they can make a profit and although i understand cost vs profits our hobby is going to be priced out of the affordable sector before long
pt said If you've never built a kit before you are in exactly the same position as we were when we built the same kit when it came out the first time.its not about us seasoned builders, i was referring to kids as now we have easy to play and easy to entertain PCs, games and alike, so if they pick up a 30 year old spit that is not easy to build, they say (its to hard!!) and i guess its because other pursuits have been easer for them in the past that makes old kits like that useless as a starter kit for them or even as a follow on. i would rather give them an academy kit for instance that at least has a chance of going to gether well so really there is no place for the very old poor kits any more. industry should bin these kits and stop trying to turn another penny on them, rather invest in there own future more as most modelers now are in there 30s, when we become to old who will take the rains???
Edit by Admin ... Tiger, may I suggest that you add these comments to the original thread instead of starting a new one, which somewhat deletes the conversation and is totally unnecessary.
because your bidding against a collector its because you don't know the other persons top price for that item so a person might go to a show and pay a £100 for a transit and be quite happy as he would of payed £150 if he had too and the vendors happy that he got what he wanted
as we said before a kit is only worth what a buyer will pay i often see bids on items that are twice the price you can pick them up for in the shops so what does all my jabber mean? well ebay works on the old principle greed & avarice 2 bidders will often out bid each other just because they don't like to loose even i have been guilty of that one once
let's just say that there are some folks on Ebay who have a rose colored vision of what their kits are worth, unfortunately, some of the buyers have more money than sense. totally agree with you but its fortunate for the sellers and the kit manufacturers as the cash is in some respects likely to go toward more kits.
in response to Tim i guess the manufactures now (with the rise in popularity of maritime subjects) feel they can make a profit and although i understand cost vs profits our hobby is going to be priced out of the affordable sector before long
pt said If you've never built a kit before you are in exactly the same position as we were when we built the same kit when it came out the first time.its not about us seasoned builders, i was referring to kids as now we have easy to play and easy to entertain PCs, games and alike, so if they pick up a 30 year old spit that is not easy to build, they say (its to hard!!) and i guess its because other pursuits have been easer for them in the past that makes old kits like that useless as a starter kit for them or even as a follow on. i would rather give them an academy kit for instance that at least has a chance of going to gether well so really there is no place for the very old poor kits any more. industry should bin these kits and stop trying to turn another penny on them, rather invest in there own future more as most modelers now are in there 30s, when we become to old who will take the rains???
Edit by Admin ... Tiger, may I suggest that you add these comments to the original thread instead of starting a new one, which somewhat deletes the conversation and is totally unnecessary.