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Post by ao on Jan 13, 2008 14:43:24 GMT
Anyone got any ideas on this one, chaps?
My airbrush is not passing air. The trigger mechanism seems fine, and the brush has been well (perhaps evidently not!) cleaned between usage.
The air hose and all is fine... if I unscrew the airbrush from the hose, the air rushes out fine.
I've disassembled the head (hope I haven't lost the bearing in the process... is it likely to have fallen out from the needle, or is it housed in internally to the main brush body?) and reassembled, but no joy.
Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2008 15:44:25 GMT
Hmm! ... if the air is OK whilst the brush is disconnected, then the problem is with the brush, but it's not as simple as that.
There are two parts to the head, the tip which should be clean and the hole at the end should be clear. Then the nozzle, which again should be scrupulously clean and you should be able to see through the hole at the end.
The body, check the trigger mechanism is not blocked from the air intake to the needle, to do this, strip out the needle assembly by undoing the plug at the base of the brush, you'll need an Allen key for that or a pair of pliers, but be careful not to damage the assembly. If that is clear, it may be a blockage in the main body of the airbrush which will require cleaning out ... under no circumstances be tempted to soak the whole body in any type of cleaner, trust me, it causes more problems than it clears. Inside the main body is a teflon washer, there may be a blockage behind that, to remove it you need a special tool, don't attempt to force it out, you'll cause damage.
Finally, if you think you've cleaned the brush and it still won't spray, check for a small white teflon washer at the rear of the head assembly where it screws into the body, it could have been lost when you stripped the head assembly.
If you're still having problems, try contacting Ted Taylor, his email and PM contact are elsewhere on this forum, apart from that, contact your nearest Badger service agent.
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Post by cosmosman on Jan 13, 2008 16:12:56 GMT
If I remember rightly the air passes down the body through a hole at the side to the head. Check if that is clear. The teflon washer round the needle is to seal the air between the needle and the body. You could also check the airbrush valve when you remove it from the main body. Screw it into the airline and carefully press down the top of the valve.
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Post by ao on Jan 13, 2008 16:32:23 GMT
Thanks - I've done the following as you recommend:
- striped all sections down and cleaned 'em;
- removed the air valve housing and attached it to airhose. PUshed vale down, air passes through ok;
- cleaned the airflow vents in brush;
- confirmed that teflon washer is in place
alas, no joy.
Can anyone recommend a good mainland UK service agent? There's nowt here in Northern Ireland. Cheers.
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Post by cosmosman on Jan 13, 2008 16:38:23 GMT
Does the air come through the airbrush with the head removed. If so it must be the head. Might be easier to just get a new head. Do you have a Hobbycraft over there ?
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Post by ao on Jan 13, 2008 16:43:50 GMT
>>Does the air come through the airbrush with the head removed.
'fraid not. Seems to be something within the main silver housing between the screw-in air valve and the little pin-hole opening on its face.
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Post by Don Cabriolet on Jan 13, 2008 16:58:51 GMT
Before you think about sending ther brush off to a service agent remember that the Badger 200-3 costs about £35 to replace plus postage so don't plan on spending too much to repair your old one. Try looking on Shesto's website here: www.shesto.co.uk/p787/Badger_200_-_OLD_Model/product_info.htmlThey do mail order, and they have stands at a number of shows - probably still quite a way from Belfast tho... Be aware that there are two versions, 200OLD and 200NH - the nozzles are different, but the body and other fittings are the same. Best of luck - let us know the fix if you do get it sorted
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Post by cosmosman on Jan 13, 2008 17:16:38 GMT
As far as I can tell the 200-3 NH is the new version. The bodies are different because the new head has a wider screw fitting and a bleed hole in the side. I'll try and post some pictures of the 2 different types
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Post by ao on Jan 13, 2008 17:20:08 GMT
Thanks everyone for the help, much appreciated. It may as simple, as Treadhead suggests, to just buy a new body component (51-0107). I'm using one of the newer 200-NH jobbies, as exploded in following url. www.shesto.co.uk/m14/Badger/p818/Badger_200NH_(200-3_Universal_-_NEW_Model)/product_info.htmlJust concerned apart the needle-bearing (50-046)... I didn't encounter such a thing when taking the brush to pieces... does it actually live in part 41-064 or 51-0107? I assume the air should be able to still pass if the entire head / needle / needle-bearing were unattached?
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Post by cosmosman on Jan 13, 2008 17:59:25 GMT
Here's some photo's of old and new old body new body old head new head
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Post by Don Cabriolet on Jan 13, 2008 18:55:00 GMT
The needle bearing - part 50-046 - is pressed in using a very heavy press - you need to remove the brass bit from the front of the body and the ball bearing\air valve assembly from underneath. That's why it needs to be returned to be done. When my 200OLD went on the blink I simply bought a 200NH - actually at SMW a few years ago. Of course, that was after I'd spent a small fortune replacing virtually every bit except trhe factory only bits If you take my advice I'd ditch the old body and get a new NH body from Shesto. If you have a Hobbycraft near you you can compare prices, but I don't think you can better the Shesto price by much.
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Post by ao on Jan 18, 2008 21:21:43 GMT
Resolved - a new body component (51-0107) arrived, and all works fine and dandy.
Irritatingly, the original component also now works again... sheesh...
I can only assume that there was a blockage which worked its way out after a couple of days after a good blasting of Shesto airbrush cleaner.
Still, always useful to have a spare...
and thanks for all the suggestions. It's a great board, must get a couple of build photos up one of these days.
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