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Post by Simon Cornes on Apr 22, 2009 8:12:39 GMT
The Dornier has 6 guidance aerials under the wings but the photo I have doesn't show any vertical di-pole elements. Is my photo just not good enough? Should there be extra elements, vertical or horizontal? Does anyone have or know of a photograph?
Secondly, did the 217K-2 carry 2 bombs or just one? The Italeri kit gives you 2 but someone recently said it was beyond a Dornier 217 to actuall carry 2!
I look forward to receiving your replies, many thanks in advance
Simon
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Post by rossm on May 1, 2009 7:55:23 GMT
Hi Simon,
According to the caption to the photo in the Profile......
The big-span Do 217 K-2 with extra wing area required to lift the "Fritz-X" guided bomb. Along the mainplane leading edges are the total of six supporting posts for the horizontal wire aerials of the Lichtenstein S ship-search radar.
The same photo (and I assume it's the one you have) appears in Manfred Griehl's book Do217-317-417 without any comment on the aerials. As best as I can glean from this book there was a modified communications set (Kehl) for the guidance of the missiles so there may not have been any noticeable aerial fit for them.
The Profile also states the K-2 could lift two Fritz-X but at the expense of range and only one was carried on operational missions.
PS. I've sorted out the swastikas and will try to post them today.
Cheers,
Ross
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Post by Simon Cornes on May 1, 2009 8:02:19 GMT
Thanks for the reply Ross - 'Horizontal wire aerials - Lichtenstein S' eh? Not heard that from anyone else - maybe the its a single wire strung between the 3 'posts' on each wing? Not clear from the photos so I will have togoogle Lichtenstein S and see what comes up - will look at the photo again, this time for horizontal wires!
Re the Fritz, it would make sense to be able to carry two to shift them about from storage to airfield but the Guano conversion kit I have has only one so someone must know what they're talking about!
Thanks for the swastikas in advance Ross!
Cheers,
Simon
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Post by rossm on May 1, 2009 11:44:20 GMT
Hi Simon,
I'm not sure those aerials were fitted to every K-2 or K-3, I've a photo of a III/KG100 machine without them,
Cheers,
Ross
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Post by Simon Cornes on May 1, 2009 12:03:25 GMT
Hi Ross
The plot thickens! What amuses me is the photo in the Italeri K1 instructions is of a K2 with the aerial 'posts'! Ah well, better than nothing!
I have established that the Lichtenstein S is the FuG 213 but, so far, no joy in getting a photo of an installation on 'anything' . Luckily I'm not that far down the line yet! I'll probably build it with 6 horizontal 'rods' a similar length to the pitot on the port wing and leave it at that!
Cheers
Simon
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Post by popeye on May 1, 2009 13:42:36 GMT
If Air Internat (Sept 1993) and Mike Badrocke's phantom drawing + the key to the drwawing is reliable then:
Do 217 K-2 - both wings - 3 horizontal poles - lenght equals approx pitot mast - antennae wire between poles -
> FuG203a Kehl guidance equipment transmitting antenna.
HTH
Rolf
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Post by Simon Cornes on May 1, 2009 13:56:44 GMT
Rolf
Is that a single wire between each pole? Is the wire attached to the extreme forward end of the pole and does the wire terminate at the inner/outer pole on each wing or at the leading edge?
Many thanks
Simon
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Post by popeye on May 1, 2009 14:03:29 GMT
Simon,
re-send e-mail -
will try to scan & send later after weekend
Rolf
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Post by Simon Cornes on May 1, 2009 14:05:45 GMT
Thanks Rolf
I presume 1 round is the correct operational load by the way?
Simon
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Post by rossm on May 1, 2009 14:56:51 GMT
Must check my index more, I've got that article and it shows the wire just across the three poles, no leading-edge connection. The photo of a III/KG100 aircraft definitely does not show them though so I still reserve judgement,
Ross
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Post by Simon Cornes on May 1, 2009 15:42:59 GMT
Ross
Presumably aerial wire at tip of rod? Must run inside the outer rods to the interior of the wing and then into the cockpit then? The rods seem to attach to the main spar - like the pitot - so set back under the wing.
Simon
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Post by rossm on May 1, 2009 15:52:10 GMT
Simon, near enough the tip not to notice in 1/72 scale (some kind of streamlined mounting which just protrudes beyond the wire itself). Searching the web I begin to think there were several versions of "Kehl" guidance system so maybe K-2's with and without this arrangement are both correct  Ross |
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Post by rossm on May 1, 2009 15:55:51 GMT
Indeed, the cutaway refers to Khel 1.
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