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Post by iansadler on Mar 2, 2010 18:56:08 GMT
Hi all . while searching for a convertion for Emhar Bedford OY truck I came across one photo of an Armoured Lorry called Flossie. I am hoping that someone has either plans or other photos and most important details of who built it and were it was used. cheers ian
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2010 19:01:40 GMT
Ian, can you email the photo please.
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Post by iansadler on Mar 3, 2010 11:33:30 GMT
hi nick reply sent this morning with scan cheers ian
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2010 11:51:08 GMT
Ian's sent me a scan of an armoured vehicle which is based on a 4x2 flatbed lorry chassis with single rear wheels, the marque' of the vehicle is unclear. The picture is from a book, 'The Great Tank Scandal' by David Fletcher. So, if anyone has the book (apart from Ian) and can shed light on the vehicle used, who prepared it and why (possible home guard)? ... please leave your comments.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2010 20:05:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2010 21:31:00 GMT
Foxy, please look which board the thread is in and then read the description of the board. This is an armoured vehicle, possibly late 1930's / early 1940's era. It has a fighting capability, it's armoured and therefore it's within the genre' AFV - Armoured Fighting Vehicle. I've contacted David Fletcher to ask permission to post the photograph.
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Post by iansadler on Mar 4, 2010 11:35:34 GMT
Hi all , I am now convinced it is a pre war Austin , but which one I am not ceratain as I do not have a lot of ref on the early lorries. As to the term AFV , one must remember it came into being long before Tanks were invented . The British and Armericans had Armoured lorries in service in 1915 and the Americans in 1917 in Mexico . cheers ian
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2010 11:41:04 GMT
Ian, not so sure it is an Austin? First thoughts were Bedford O' series as the radiator, front wheel arches and front bumper match the design, pity we can't see the central pillar of the radiator grille. The Austin K4 was a similar design but I'll do a spot more digging.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2010 12:59:45 GMT
The more I look at this the more I'm convinced the vehicle is a dog, built from various available parts. Here's the photo (copyright David Fletcher) ... ... looking at the front mudguards and the bumper, my first impression is that it's a Bedford. The small amount of radiator grille we can see would also make me consider this to be a Bedford, however, the early Austin K4's had a similar radiator grille. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, pity we can't see the central portion of the radiator grille. Now have a look at the N/S front wheel, it has six studs, most of the Bedford's I've seen of the period have eight studs. The early Ford 7V's had six studs and the wheel is also of a similar pattern to the Ford. Looking at the rear wheels, they just don't seem right for a Bedford? It's a superb subject for a model and it's now intriguing me, so I'll keep digging.
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Post by iansadler on Mar 4, 2010 14:06:10 GMT
Hi All , I have sent a photo of what I think is the donor vehicle An Austin K2 lorry , I sent a scan to nick from the book British Lorries in Colour by S W Stevens-Stratten , it is on page 19 for those who may be interested . cheers ian
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2010 14:10:24 GMT
Cheers Ian, the plot thickens. The wheels and number of wheel nuts are the same, the grille is similar ... hmmm!
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Post by voyager on Mar 4, 2010 16:41:42 GMT
Interesting - only need flat plasticard, even I could manage that ;D I presume those are guns poking through the holes? Armoured - check Fighting - check Vehicle - check
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2010 16:53:14 GMT
Andrew, time to sit down, calm yourself. I know the Bedford would be an ideal donor but ... bugger, given the game away.
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Post by okdoky on Mar 4, 2010 20:36:25 GMT
Here is a link to another armoured truck. Or is it just a big tin can on a truck body? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford_OXAI don't think I would want to deliver bread to Tescos using this !!! Armoured Bedford used by the Home Guard units and has a similar shape and layout on the flat bed, if a bit more professionally built than ian's version. Defo Bedford wheels on the OXA. Nige
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