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Post by neilscrim on Feb 14, 2008 14:08:45 GMT
First impressions are generally good, it's not perfect but I've wanted a Nimrod all of my life and this kit is good enough for me.
But...
Both of my kits have dodgy decals, they seem to be speckled with dark blue. Anyone else had the same problem?
P.S. Well done to Hannants, super quick delivery
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Post by dad1 on Feb 14, 2008 14:45:00 GMT
No - the only one of my kits that I've opened has no problem like that, although a close examination shows the 'D' roundel red centres to be 'thin' on one side with a faded appearance. Looks like that's probably from too high a speed printing? Register and sharpness very good.
Some may say expensive - but compared to the price & quality of my Mach2 Valiant (UK price £46.40) this is a winner.
Dad-1
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Post by The Detail Police on Feb 14, 2008 21:33:14 GMT
I can't comment on the decals as I don't have mine yet, but I notice these kits are now selling on eBay for approx £35 delivered. I wonder if these are going to be the 'investment' that some are doubtless hoping for.
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Post by tunnan on Feb 14, 2008 21:57:18 GMT
You got decals!
I picked up my kit today, got home at lunchtime (1/2 day as I am picking up new car (thats new to me, not new, new)) opened box, pulled out two plastic bags of sprues, quick fondle and then put lid back on. Sat there thinking rats, more half built kits on work bench swept to the side so I can start latest accuisition. Then, 'hang on a mo'. Opened box, pulled out bags and looked at bottom of empty box - no decals, no instructions!
Anyone else have that problem?
Would really like instructions (although could probably guess) and decals even though I will consider the old SAM decal sheet from nineteen canteen. I even checked between the two outer boxes (plain lid and printed lid).
Guess who is getting e mailed in the morning.
Tunnan
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Post by neilscrim on Feb 15, 2008 8:43:46 GMT
Believe me, decals like the sheets I've got are pointless anyway But that's being facetious, at least I've got them. dad1 had dodgy decals too (but with a different problem) and the sheets do seem a bit weird, very glossy and they look like they could be thick. I'll revise my decription of the problem on my sheets, the whole sheet is speckled in dark blue but it's very, very fine (almost dust like) and at first I didn't notice it. I've also noticed there's a lot of half-toning colours in there, which is disappointing. For £40 I expect better decals HOWEVER... I'm not going to knock the kit (that's not what this thread is about), I've got a Nimrod and it's half decent. That's all that matters to me. As for prices, yeah, I've seen a couple of websites selling them for £35 and the profit makers out there may get burnt. Me? I've got 2 of them and I fully intend to build them, in fact I could do with more but at that price I can't afford them. Plus, where the h*ll would I put half a dozen Nimrods when they're built! Now, if only someone did an injection moulded Nimrod in 144th.... but that's being greedy Neil
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Post by COLIN SHIPTON-KNIGHT on Feb 18, 2008 20:47:32 GMT
Hey at long last....
I have my Nimrod kit, Airfix, I have to congratulate you.....nice looking kit with a nice looking sheet of decals......sorry folks.
My sheet looks good, I'm doing R1, anybody want the rest, particularly if they have 'dodgy' one's.....give me PM.
Noticed one area of correction already, sorry if it is 'heresy' to criticise Airfix, BUT, have a look at the landing lights, they are not correct, look at photos of real aircraft regarding lights in wing fillets and outboard engine fillets......otherwise lovely kit, but not made it yet!
R1, look at shape of fuel tanks on wing, shape of forward portion's, not right but easily sorted.
Fin top pod, again look at photos, not quite right.......
Overall, lovely kit, flippin' good starting point.....
Hope this helps...
Colin
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Post by nimrod120 on Feb 19, 2008 13:12:16 GMT
Hi all, I'm new on here so thought I'd best say hello before starting on about the Nimrod. I got mine the other day and find it to be a good looking kit but there are a few mistakes with it and the instructions ...which I'll list: 1. There are too many windows on the port side for an MR2P model. The kit and instructions show nine windows, which is correct for an MR1, but on the MR2 the third window back from & including the 'beam' should be blanked out. 2. The instructions inform you that for an R1 aircraft six windows need to be blanked out at step #36. However, the windows are fitted and the fuselage halves joined together at step #7 3. The instructions show that with the undercarriage lowered the 'D' doors should be attached in the open position, this is wrong. The 'D' doors close again once the leg has extended, the only time you'd see a 'D' door open is for access during a maintenance task or if the aircraft is being washed. Also the 'D' doors look to be slightly the wrong shape. 4. The instructions don't show that for an R1 aircraft the starboard rear access door should be blanked out. There is no such door on the R1. 5. There are no anti-col lights provided with the kit. I know it's only a small point and these are easily manufactured but 6. The instructions show that XV246 is an R1 this is not the case. XV249 was the aircraft that replaced XW666 when that aircraft was lost in the Moray Firth in 1995. The aircraft caught fire during an air test following a major servicing and was subsequently ditched with all of the crew surviving the incident 7. The instructions also show that the top most surface of the R1 should be painted light aircraft grey, this is also wrong. This area of the R1 should be painted almost white ...it 'apparently' gives a two degree temperature drop inside the cabin. 8. If you want to make a model of XV249 as an R1 it would probably be best doing it in the old 'Hemp' colour scheme as the only decals provided for 49 are in black and are in fact white on the grey version. 9. The three crew members provided (flight deck crew) are shown to be wearing 'bone-domes' there has never been any headgear other than a baseball cap worn by any Nimrod Aircrew. 10. The instructions show that R1 aircraft have the 'domed' observation windows on the starboard side and there aren't any of these type windows fitted to the R1 only the MR1 & 2 aircraft. Sorry for going on a bit there but after nearly a quarter of a century spent working on the beast even I can spot the odd mistake. I know they are only small errors but anyone not knowing the aircraft very well might be glad of the 'info' Best Regards - Pete.
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Post by dad1 on Feb 19, 2008 13:37:50 GMT
O.K. nimrod120 ...... From what you say some of these problems are perhaps from trying to release a multi role kit. Always worth knowing the minor hitches. Me I'll go for a MR-1 with black radome. Do we really need all those stencils? I can't see that much standing out in photographs. Anyway it's so much better than my 3/4 completed vacform I'm not going to complain - just study photo's and do what sems to be necessary.
Dad-1
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Post by The Detail Police on Feb 19, 2008 13:49:24 GMT
I've got my two kits now and the one I've opened has good decals except that the varnish layer is not in register with the colours. Fortunately the varnish just covers the edge of the colours, but its close!
I think Airfix would have done better to cut down on the number of stencils and use the time/money saved to give full colour to all the noseart and improve QC at the decal printers.
However, given the size and number of versions offered I think its reasonable value for £40 and a credit to Airfix.
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Post by Jonathan Mock on Apr 12, 2008 22:49:51 GMT
O.K. nimrod120 ...... Do we really need all those stencils? I can't see that much standing out in photographs. Dad-1 Well the flip side is that is the sheet had been simplified and a lot of the stencilling left off there would have been complaints that its not as complete as decals sheets from XYZ model companies. So yes, all those stencils are necessary, though you can pick and choose which ones you think are worth applying.
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Post by COLIN SHIPTON-KNIGHT on Apr 13, 2008 19:31:20 GMT
Dear all,
Want instructions, I have scanned, just give me email...
Decals a little more difficult, still got no response from Airfix...you need sheet for stencils, give them hell....... you never know you might get something.......hopefully what you have paid for......!
Got Model Alliance decals of R1, and some MR2/P's, if interested feel free to give me email..
Got spare decals of Airfix versions, just cannot spare stencils...
All the best with doing battle with Airfix..... Hope they get it sorted soon...
Colin
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Post by COLIN SHIPTON-KNIGHT on Nov 30, 2008 15:57:26 GMT
Doing an R1? ? Just started preparing mine and comparing with references. Previous post by Nimrod 120 made valid points, however I have some more. The forward window on the starboard side needs to be changed from round 'bubble' type to plain oval. Second window starboard side is further back than on the kit and again plain oval. Small wing fences. Flaps if drooped are incomplete, as another split flap drops from under the engines. Any body want reference photos, PM me your email address. Colin
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Post by sloegin57 on Nov 30, 2008 18:23:43 GMT
Doing an R1? ? Just started preparing mine and comparing with references. Previous post by Nimrod 120 made valid points, however I have some more. The forward window on the starboard side needs to be changed from round 'bubble' type to plain oval. Second window starboard side is further back than on the kit and again plain oval. Small wing fences. Flaps if drooped are incomplete, as another split flap drops from under the engines. Any body want reference photos, PM me your email address. Colin Colin, won't be building a Dimrod but from what I have seen in magazines and on the web over the years, as they get older the fewer windies they seem to have. Attached are a couple of pix of XW665 and '666, I shot from outside Wytons fence I hasten to add - SIB please note !, back in 73'ish whilst they were doing crew training in the circuit or whatever 51 do. Dennis
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Post by Jonathan Mock on Nov 30, 2008 23:52:46 GMT
I think Airfix would have done better to cut down on the number of stencils and use the time/money saved to give full colour to all the noseart and improve QC at the decal printers. That would have made no difference to costs at all, and "Maid of Moray" is tricky to do as a decal because the shading on the colours is hard to reproduce, even using the litho process used with those decals.
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Post by Jonathan Mock on Nov 30, 2008 23:54:32 GMT
Attached are a couple of pix of XW665 and '666, I shot from outside Wytons fence I hasten to add - SIB please note !, back in 73'ish whilst they were doing crew training in the circuit or whatever 51 do. Great pics! Unusual to see an R.1 with the old black radome.
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